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Post by harrypalmer on Jul 6, 2007 7:44:24 GMT -5
Why does Sir Roger Moore get such a hard time from everyone. When you read an article on an aspect of Bond - from the novels to the latest Bond film - there always seems to be a snipe at Sir Roger. His films were "cheesy with talking birds". He was an "old wimp". He was nothing like the serious Fleming Bond.
This really annoys me. Sean's stint and his Bond were just as daft. Sir Roger created a diverse series of Bond adventures that defined Bond for many people - even if they don't realise it! Along with Cubby Broccoli, he developed the Bond series into a cultural icon.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 9, 2007 13:13:30 GMT -5
Why does Sir Roger Moore get such a hard time from everyone. When you read an article on an aspect of Bond - from the novels to the latest Bond film - there always seems to be a snipe at Sir Roger. His films were "cheesy with talking birds". He was an "old wimp". He was nothing like the serious Fleming Bond. This really annoys me. Sean's stint and his Bond were just as daft. Sir Roger created a diverse series of Bond adventures that defined Bond for many people - even if they don't realize it! Along with Cubby Broccoli, he developed the Bond series into a cultural icon. Couldn't agree 'Moore' with your post. Sir Rog does seem to get criticized for his take on the role and he is always very humble with respect to his own portrayal as 007. For me his style is very underrated, due to the fact, he could play the character so diversely. A great Bond
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Post by James on Jul 10, 2007 12:02:18 GMT -5
Why does Sir Roger Moore get such a hard time from everyone. When you read an article on an aspect of Bond - from the novels to the latest Bond film - there always seems to be a snipe at Sir Roger. His films were "cheesy with talking birds". He was an "old wimp". He was nothing like the serious Fleming Bond. This really annoys me. Sean's stint and his Bond were just as daft. Sir Roger created a diverse series of Bond adventures that defined Bond for many people - even if they don't realise it! Along with Cubby Broccoli, he developed the Bond series into a cultural icon. I think you have to remember that a lot of Bond fans are incredibly pretentious. Just because Daniel Craig played Casino Royale 'straight' and he isn't especially charming or good-looking, a lot of fans acted as if it was an Ingmar Bergman film rather than a ho-hum Martin Campbell action film.
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Post by Alec 006 on Jul 18, 2007 23:11:01 GMT -5
I HATE when people criticize him. I grew up with Sir Roger as Bond! After "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"...things looked shaky for the franchise.
For "Diamonds Are Forever"...they signed American actor John Gavin to play 007...Guy Hamilton before that wanted Burt Reynolds (YIKES!) Eventually, they threw tons of money at Sean for one more run. This was a "band-aid solution".
Then they approached Sir Roger (an actor Ian Fleming himself had suggested). The role of Bond fit Roger like a glove and he went on to star in 7 BOND MOVIES (a record)...raking in tons of money for Cubby and EON.
Some of Roger's movies could be a little too campy at times, but they were always entertaining. In my humble opinion - he saved the franchise!
Take Care!
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Post by Kadov on Jul 19, 2007 0:16:23 GMT -5
I think you have to remember that a lot of Bond fans are incredibly pretentious. Just because Daniel Craig played Casino Royale 'straight' and he isn't especially charming or good-looking, a lot of fans acted as if it was an Ingmar Bergman film rather than a ho-hum Martin Campbell action film. Excellent point, James. I might also humbly suggest that the fans who scorn Roger Moore (and Brosnan, for that matter) but worship Craig like a golden statue are the types of fans who are just pro-anything for EON and whatever direction the series is in. In this case, because Craig got a lot of negativity upon his casting, these fans (and here I refer to those on the handful of pro-Craig forums) felt that their world was collapsing, and they simply rallied around Craig and EON, and built CR into something profound--as you say, "an Ingmar Bergman film rather than a ho-hum Martin Campbell action film." This is not meant as harsh criticism, but these types of fans are no different than those hardcore geeky Star Wars fans who probably believe that Ewoks exist (they really don't exist, do they?). :-) For these types of fans, all the world is Star Wars or all the world is Daniel Craig and CR, and they've united into a brotherhood of sorts. When I was in my 20s, I was that type of Bond fan--I was just pro-EON, I hung out with a couple snivelling geeks who lived and breathed the Bond films, and never even looked at EON's approach with any sense of objectivity. Now that I'm older, my kids think I'm a geek, but at least I have the ability to stand back and, as a Bond fan, look at CR objectively as well as appreciate what Roger Moore brought to the series. He is incredibly underrated but is one of the great Bonds.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 19, 2007 7:00:03 GMT -5
It's nice to see Old Rog is appreciated. ;D
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Post by mh4213 on Aug 20, 2007 12:10:38 GMT -5
It would have been interesting to see Roger Moore continue in the vein of For Your Eyes Only.
Why did they go back to the over the top fantasy Bond in Octopussy?
Was For Your Eyes Only a flop?
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Post by skywalker on Aug 20, 2007 12:46:59 GMT -5
It would have been interesting to see Roger Moore continue in the vein of For Your Eyes Only. Why did they go back to the over the top fantasy Bond in Octogirl thingy? Was For Your Eyes Only a flop? What I find interesting is the fact Sir Roger was so diverse in his tenure as Bond, yet he is often criticized as being wooden. In FYEO, Moore played it serious and showed his class, but he could also play to his strengths as seen in his other 6 Bond films.
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Post by domino on Aug 20, 2007 14:27:26 GMT -5
He's a really good Bond. But his one liners were pretty bad. I realize that part of Bond is the sarcasm and those lines, but Moore's script didn't do him any justice. Paraphrasing something from Moonraker "I discovered it had a crush on me" That's something sixth graders have stopped laughing at.
He's not completely wooden, but he doesn't move very smoothly, especially when it comes to fighting, most of the blows don't look like they even make contact.
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Post by Greg Haugen on Aug 21, 2007 13:23:38 GMT -5
He's a really good Bond. But his one liners were pretty bad. I realize that part of Bond is the sarcasm and those lines, but Moore's script didn't do him any justice. Paraphrasing something from Moonraker "I discovered it had a crush on me" That's something sixth graders have stopped laughing at. He's not completely wooden, but he doesn't move very smoothly, especially when it comes to fighting, most of the blows don't look like they even make contact. I grew up with Sir Rog but I understand why he isn't quite everybody's cup of tea. He did have a deadly karate chop though.
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Post by jamesstock007 on Aug 23, 2007 13:06:03 GMT -5
For me that Best Bond, i do like the others apart from craig but i grew up watching his films and he played the role so diversely as well. His best one for me is Live and Let Die.
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Post by poirot on Aug 23, 2007 15:21:38 GMT -5
It's interesting that despite his reputation as a weak Bond, his films generally receive the most airplay during television/cable marathons.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 23, 2007 15:42:29 GMT -5
For me that Best Bond, i do like the others apart from craig but i grew up watching his films and he played the role so diversely as well. His best one for me is Live and Let Die. My favourite Bond film 'Live and let die'.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 23, 2007 15:44:15 GMT -5
It's interesting that despite his reputation as a weak Bond, his films generally receive the most airplay during television/cable marathons. Your probably right there Poirot. Sir Rog's Bond films do seem to get more airplay then the other actors.
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Post by alex on Aug 23, 2007 16:29:45 GMT -5
I tend to think of Roger Moore as the Captain Kirk of James Bond. He might not have been the most serious actor but he was probably the most fun. I'd rather watch the seventies Roger Moore epics than the last batch of movies produced by Barbara Broccoli.
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