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Post by brookystreet on Sept 6, 2008 6:58:55 GMT -5
SC DN - No Q or reference to Bond's Beretta FRWL - Same GF - Same TB - Trimmed down 10 minutes DAF - Less camp, no 'Wint & Kidd', Blofeld isn't the main villain OHMSS - No refrence to previous Bond films
GL YOLT - Revenge thriller, once again starring 'Telly Savalas' as Blofeld, Bond has plastic surgery so that Blofeld doesn't recognise him
RM LALD - Kananga gets proper send-off (Eaten by sharks), Q gives Bond watch which isn't magnetic TMWTGG - Same TSWLM - Same MR - Jaws doesn't return & Bond doesn't go to space FYEO - Cut out Blofeld pre-creds & replace with boat blowing up, M's funeral also features, Bond is asked to take over as head but declines OP - Trimmed down, less camp. AVTAK - Different Bond girl & no Beach Boys music during pre-creds
TD CR - Trimmed down 10mins. Edward Fox as M & Caroline Bliss as Moneypenny TLD - Same
PB GE - Released in 1993, Samantha Bond as Moneypenny until LTK TND - Released in 1995, same TWINE - Released in 1997, no pre-creds boat chase Colonel Sun - Released in 1999, close to novel, M is killed LTK - (40th Anniversary), ends Bond series
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Post by mh4213 on Sept 8, 2008 10:55:00 GMT -5
Waht do you mean by Colonel Sun ending the series? Do you mean the old Bond series before the Casino Royale relaunch?
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Post by brookystreet on Sept 8, 2008 13:12:17 GMT -5
Waht do you mean by Colonel Sun ending the series? Do you mean the old Bond series before the Casino Royale relaunch? Yeah
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Post by adam on Sept 8, 2008 17:30:07 GMT -5
What's a beretta ? Thunderball did drag a bit. DAF was a bit camp but I did like Wint and Kidd. Making YOLT a revenge thriller with Lazenby is a good idea. But did Lazenby deserve another chance ?. Cubby said he was a pain in the neck.
I read once that the public voted the magnetic watch in LALD as Bonds best gadget. Kananga's death was quite entertaining. Getting eaten by sharks may have been a bit gruesome. Agree MR could have done without Bond going into space. The suggestions for FYEO are also good. Thought O was well paced and did'nt need to be trimmed down. It was quite camp during the first half but nowhere near as bad as DAF.
Having a new Bond, 'M' and 'Moneypenny' may have reinvigorated AVTAK and resulted in a better quality Bond movie.
Edward Fox would have been a good 'M'. Why would you have deleted the PTS boat chase in TWINE. ?
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Post by garyseven on Sept 9, 2008 5:54:12 GMT -5
If there was no magnetic watch in Live And Let Die, then we would be deprived of the Maddy Smith watch/dress scene.
Have you seen the Monnraker fan edit which edits out a few of the over the top moments? It's a bit miserable in my opinion.
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Post by brookystreet on Sept 9, 2008 10:35:29 GMT -5
The reason I'd delete the pre-creds boat scene is because it goes on too long, it could've been shown later in the film
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Post by Remo on Sept 10, 2008 12:18:12 GMT -5
I'd rather they didn't end the series in 2002 although they did in a way. I quite like the idea of Rog doing DAF through to Moonraker and then Dalton becoming the eighties Bond with FYEO onwards.
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Post by adam on Sept 10, 2008 12:37:45 GMT -5
Moore was tied up with the Saint and then the Persuaders in the late 60's & early 70's. Otherwise he would have been approached after YOLT.
He would have suited DAF. OHMSS would have needed to be changed a bit. Perhaps trim it and not have Bond falling in love. Starring in OHMSS through to MR would have meant 6 films. He would have looked pretty youthful in all of them. Tim Dalton could have taken over in 81. That would mean the battle of the 'Bonds' in 83 would be Dalton v Connery.
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Post by Greg Haugen on Sept 11, 2008 12:12:29 GMT -5
Moore was tied up with the Saint and then the Persuaders in the late 60's & early 70's. Otherwise he would have been approached after YOLT. He would have suited DAF. OHMSS would have needed to be changed a bit. Perhaps trim it and not have Bond falling in love. Starring in OHMSS through to MR would have meant 6 films. He would have looked pretty youthful in all of them. Tim Dalton could have taken over in 81. That would mean the battle of the 'Bonds' in 83 would be Dalton v Connery. I think Octopussy would have been a very different film with Timbo involved. According to Michael Bilington he was on the set of Octopussy as a 'reserve' Bond should Rog bugger off due to contract/money wrangles so it could have been Billington v Connery. Or even Brolin v Connery. I think Reg Varney was even under consideration.
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Post by adam on Sept 11, 2008 12:27:29 GMT -5
The extra's section of the DVD of Octopussy has a clip of Michael Billington screen testing. He still looked like a potential Bond. There is also a clip of a James Brolin screen test. Brolin had the build and dark hair. Legend has it Brolin was actually signed up for Octopussy. Moore then signed up for Octopussy virtually the following day & Brolin was told he was'nt needed. Brolin was 45 in 1983 and his chance had gone.
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Post by adam on Sept 11, 2008 12:39:23 GMT -5
I've never heard that Tim was ever considered for Octopussy. There are rumours he was a possibility for FYEO. He was also approached over a decade earlier when he was just 25. Dalton politely rebuffed Cubbys approach saying Bond should be played by someone older and he did'nt want to get typecast at such a young age. I don't think O would have been much different with Dalton. There may have been slightly fewer jokes and campness in the first hour but he would have enjoyed the more serious tone of the film in the final hour.
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Post by adam on Sept 11, 2008 13:03:41 GMT -5
Had a browse of the recently released 'James Bond Enclycopidia' today in my local WHSMITH. It's very big and glossy with lots of pictures I've never seen before. It does'nt tell me much I did'nt already know but is worth a look.
One thing I found interesting was the situation after AVTAK. The producers of 'Remington Steel' were prepared to be flexible with their filming schedule to allow Brosnan to film both 'Remington Steel' and 'The Living Daylights'. Cubby Brocoli said 'thanks but no thanks' to this offer.
A few weeks later Timothy Dalton asked Cubby Brocoli if filming of 'The Living Daylights' could be delayed as he was still involved in theatre work. Cubby agreed to this.
Seems to me that in his heart, Dalton was Cubby's preferred choice in 86.
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Post by Greg Haugen on Sept 11, 2008 15:42:23 GMT -5
I suppose if Timothy had been cast in 1981 he would have been in line to do Octopussy next although they probably would have done a totally different film more suited to his type of Bond. Lewis Collins was the betting favourite to step in at this time but he claimed later that Cubby disliked him for some reason. It's clear that Cubby was a big admirer of Dalton. He vetoed the casting of Sam Neil in 1986 to back to Timothy. I think Cubby also liked Brosnan a lot - and cast him twice - but he obviously didn't like having to compete with a tv network for control and access to his actor. Is Billington in the Octopussy DVD extras? I'll have to dig that out. I remember Brolin and the Sam Neil screentest on The Living Daylights. It would be fascinating to watch all the tests Eon have done over the years. I found an interesting article about all of this on an obscure website I've never seen before: www.alternative007.co.uk/12.htm
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Post by Greg Haugen on Sept 11, 2008 16:15:31 GMT -5
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Post by adam on Sept 11, 2008 18:34:18 GMT -5
Lewis Collins was the popular choice for Bond in my school back in the 80's. He was also very popular with the public. Dispite that haircut in 'The Professionals'.Lots of people on Youtube say he should of been Bond. He was only 40 in 1986, the perfect age. But Brosnan had become the favourite & Collins was well down the pecking order.
There is a Youtube interview from 1992, he still looked great. The rumours about him becoming Bond were strongest in the early 80's. Women used to camp outside his house, such was his sex appeal. I wonder what FYEO & O would have been like with Collins as Bond ?
Collins said his interview with Brocoli only lasted five minutes. Maybe they got their wires crossed. Collins comes across as perfectly amiable in interviews. I'm sure they could have worked together.
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