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Post by BJMDDS on Sept 5, 2007 14:55:08 GMT -5
I think Craig was slightly flattered by the PR push for CR, which of course any alternative actor would have got. If Cavill had done CR Sony/Eon would have had everyone thinking he was Marlon Brando by the time the film came out. I like Craig in some roles and he's a good actor but James Bond? Not for me. I wonder if that world's best dressed man thing was in the bag and waiting for whoever they cast as Bond. Cynical? Not me.  That was all part of the record $120 million Eon shelled out to promote CR. How else could Craig lead any such polls, if no one even knew who he was. PAYOFFS James, payoffs, and millions to magazines,critics,etc. |
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Post by sas on Sept 6, 2007 7:57:34 GMT -5
Ever since the "Bourne" movies have come on the scene, the makers of James Bond have been in the line of fire for having a dusty lethargic spy on their hands -- "Casino Royale" notwithstanding.
The Hollywood Reporter today stats that it looks like EON Prods., Columbia Pictures and MGM might be kicking it up a notch for the next Bond film.
Taking a page from the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" handbook, the production has hired "Bourne Supremacy" and "Bourne Ultimatum" action designer Dan Bradley as the film's second unit director. ......A Quote for..... BJMDDS
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Post by Greg Haugen on Sept 6, 2007 11:46:30 GMT -5
Ever since the "Bourne" movies have come on the scene, the makers of James Bond have been in the line of fire for having a dusty lethargic spy on their hands -- "Casino Royale" notwithstanding. The Hollywood Reporter today stats that it looks like EON Prods., Columbia Pictures and MGM might be kicking it up a notch for the next Bond film. Taking a page from the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" handbook, the production has hired "Bourne Supremacy" and "Bourne Ultimatum" action designer Dan Bradley as the film's second unit director. ......A Quote for..... BJMDDS I'd prefer a Bond film to a Bond film trying to be a Bourne film. I can go and watch a Bourne film if I want that, and they'll do it better. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 6, 2007 13:15:31 GMT -5
[quote I'd prefer a Bond film to a Bond film trying to be a Bourne film. I can go and watch a Bourne film if I want that, and they'll do it better.[/quote] Won;'t be able to watch a new Bond film for a while.  |
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Post by sas on Sept 7, 2007 8:00:48 GMT -5
The Hollywood Reporter stated on Tuesday 4th September that Eon Productions were taking a page from the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" handbook, by hiring "Bourne Supremacy" and "Bourne Ultimatum" action designer Dan Bradley as the film's second unit director.
Bradley plotted out and directed the acclaimed fight sequences and car chases as the stunt coordinator and second unit director of the two Paul Greengrass-helmed "Bourne" sequels and will service the working-titled "Bond 22" in much the same capacity.
According to the report, producers want him to continue and build on the more realistic and gritty approach to the veteran British spy begun in last year's "Casino Royale."
MI6 has learned that Casino Royale's stunt coordinator Gary Powell is returning in the same role for Bond 22. Powell and Bradley have worked together recently on "The Bourne Ultimatum" and "Indiana Jones IV".
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Post by BJMDDS on Sept 7, 2007 10:11:03 GMT -5
That is all the proof we need from EON. Follow the leader and make Bond more Bourne. Ridiculous actions by now unoriginal Broccoli.
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Post by James on Sept 7, 2007 12:06:42 GMT -5
That is all the proof we need from EON. Follow the leader and make Bond more Bourne. Ridiculous actions by now unoriginal Broccoli. Bond has borrowed from other trends in the past but I don't think they've ever been so obvious before or done it for more than one film. They blasted Roger Moore into space after Star Wars but only for one film. |
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Post by BJMDDS on Sept 7, 2007 21:55:17 GMT -5
With TBU now over $204 million in the USA and another $76 million internationally, count on EON to continue their mimicry of Bourne and take it internationally again. Bourne is more of a draw in the USA, even though the UK, Ireland and Malta have brought in over $35 milliion so far.
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Post by poirot on Sept 8, 2007 12:27:58 GMT -5
I think EON has really been creatively adrift ever since Goldeneye. They managed to update Bond in a way that was both successful and influential, yet didn't know where to go with the sequels.
But now that Bourne has come along, their newest answer is to just copy him note-for-note. However, I think it's a mistake to continue imitating a rival series to this extent. It's an approach that looks great for the short term, but not for the long term.
If they continue to distance themselves from their own traditions, what happens when they have to return to them?
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Post by BJMDDS on Sept 8, 2007 12:45:34 GMT -5
Return they can,with a Gerard Butler type. As soon as 24 and Bourne's ideas start to get tiresome, THAT is when we will see the Bond we all KNEW. At the end of Craig's last Bond film, which I hope will be The Bourne Mimicry(or Casino Royale II), watch for the closing credits to read,THE REAL JAMES BOND WILL RETURN.
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Post by domino on Sept 8, 2007 14:17:46 GMT -5
A Gerard butler type is good, but think abut it. He seems to lean more towards a Craig/Brosnan type Bond than Connery or Moore. He does look slightly gruff, which is where that relation to Craig comes in and his speaking style (Sarcasm, as seen in Tomb Raider 2) is Connery-ish.
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Post by domino on Sept 8, 2007 14:20:16 GMT -5
No Q or MoneyPenny!? Soon they'll get rid of the Bond girls and just focus the camera on Craig's perfectly formed arse!
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Post by domino on Sept 8, 2007 14:21:24 GMT -5
Um... ignore that. i posted on the wrong thread.
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Post by BJMDDS on Sept 9, 2007 0:15:17 GMT -5
No Q or MoneyPenny!? Soon they'll get rid of the Bond girls and just focus the camera on Craig's perfectly formed arse! Just wait, once they make Bond bisexual, it's all over, but they seem headed in strange directions now with Bond. |
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Post by sas on Sept 9, 2007 19:17:49 GMT -5
James Bond's parents are Andrew Bond, a Scotsman, and Monique Delacroix, from Canton de Vaud, Switzerland. Their nationalities were established in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Fleming emphasized Bond's Scottish heritage in admiration of Sean Connery's cinematic portrayal, whereas Bond's mother is named after a Swiss fiancée of Fleming's. A planned, but unwritten, novel would have portrayed Bond's mother as a Scot. Ian Fleming was a member of a prominent Scottish banking family.[5] In his fictional biography of secret agent 007, John Pearson gave Bond's birth date as 11 November (Armistice Day) 1920; however, there is no evidence of it in Fleming's novels. In the novel On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Bond's family motto is found to be "Orbis non sufficit" ("The world is not enough"). The novel also states that the family that used this motto may not necessarily be the same Bond family James Bond came from.[6]
Hoagy Carmichael - another James Bond role model.After completing the manuscript for Casino Royale, Fleming allowed his friend, later his editor, poet William Plomer to read it. Plomer liked it and submitted it to Jonathan Cape, who did not like it as much. Cape finally published it in 1953 on the recommendation of Fleming's older brother Peter, an established travel writer.[7]
Most researchers agree that James Bond is a romanticized version of Ian Fleming, himself a jet-setting womanizer. Both Fleming and Bond attended the same schools, preferred the same foods (scrambled eggs, coffee), maintained the same habits (drinking, smoking, wearing short-sleeve shirts), shared the same notions of the perfect woman in looks and style, and had similar naval career paths (both rising to the rank of naval Commander). They also shared similar height, hairstyle, and eye colour. Some suggest that Bond's suave and sophisticated persona is based on that of a young Hoagy Carmichael. In Casino Royale, the anti-heroine Vesper Lynd remarks, "[Bond] reminds me rather of Hoagy Carmichael, but there is something cold and ruthless." Likewise, in Moonraker, Special Branch Officer Gala Brand thinks that Bond is "certainly good-looking . . . Rather like Hoagy Carmichael in a way. That black hair falling down over the right eyebrow. Much the same bones. But there was something a bit cruel in the mouth, and the eyes were cold."[8]
Fleming did admit to being partly inspired by his service in the Naval Intelligence Division of the Admiralty, most notably an incident depicted in Casino Royale, when Fleming and Naval Intelligence Director Admiral Godfrey went on a mission to Lisbon en route to the United States during World War II. At the Estoril Casino, which harboured spies of warring regimes due to Portugal's neutrality, Fleming was 'cleaned out' by a "chief German agent" in a game of Chemin de Fer. Admiral Godfrey's account differs in that Fleming played Portuguese businessmen, whom Fleming fantasized as German agents he defeated at cards. Moreover, references to "Red Indians" in Casino Royale (four times; twice in the final page) are to his own 30 Assault Unit.
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