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Post by caribbeanjack on Nov 1, 2011 21:57:08 GMT -5
Not looking forward to it. Any partying that occurs for this film is bound to take place in a gay club in san Francisco or something. The film is bound to be a circus act like QOS and CR. This new version of the Bond films is geared for feminists, gays, and the radical leftist sphere. Barbara Broccoli obviously hates the legacy of the franchise and decided to suck up to the far-left sentiments of the Hollywood machine. The series is no longer the fantasy that Fleming always stipulated for warm-blooded heterosexuals. We're bound to get more gay villains and obviously Craig's gay-like Bond. Mendes is a known leftist. He ought to be protesting with the loons over at the Wall St. sheenanigans or praying to George Soros, not helming a Bond movie. As for Craig, the guy is completely clueless about the role and should've been junked long ago. His last stint as Bond was in drag, attempting to show us a feminist approach. Yeah, there's hope and change for you in the world of Bond. We now have a friggin' transvestite Bond. Utterly pitiful.
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Post by johnnywalker on Nov 2, 2011 11:03:44 GMT -5
It'll be huge though, it'll probably break some box office records, like the last two.
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Post by FormerBondFan on Nov 2, 2011 11:22:30 GMT -5
It'll be huge though, it'll probably break some box office records, like the last two. If that's the case, then send in Carrot Top as the next James Bond once DC retires. And you can forget the likes of Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill, Michael Fassbender, Ben Barnes, or any dark hair traditional types as Bond.
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Post by harrypalmer on Nov 2, 2011 11:28:41 GMT -5
Not looking forward to it. Any partying that occurs for this film is bound to take place in a gay club in san Francisco or something. The film is bound to be a circus act like QOS and CR. This new version of the Bond films is geared for feminists, gays, and the radical leftist sphere. Barbara Broccoli obviously hates the legacy of the franchise and decided to suck up to the far-left sentiments of the Hollywood machine. The series is no longer the fantasy that Fleming always stipulated for warm-blooded heterosexuals. We're bound to get more gay villains and obviously Craig's gay-like Bond. Mendes is a known leftist. He ought to be protesting with the loons over at the Wall St. sheenanigans or praying to George Soros, not helming a Bond movie. As for Craig, the guy is completely clueless about the role and should've been junked long ago. His last stint as Bond was in drag, attempting to show us a feminist approach. Yeah, there's hope and change for you in the world of Bond. We now have a friggin' transvestite Bond. Utterly pitiful. So just to clarify Caribbean, you are not loking forward to Bond 23?
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Post by johnnywalker on Nov 2, 2011 11:40:15 GMT -5
It's not a question of whether it will be a hit, it'll be just as massive as Craig's last two. And Craig will be as blond as Moore was dark blonde and Connery was bald.
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Post by FormerBondFan on Nov 2, 2011 14:01:57 GMT -5
It's not a question of whether it will be a hit, it'll be just as massive as Craig's last two. I hope it doesn't gross higher than both QOS and CR, especially here in the US.
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Post by caribbeanjack on Nov 2, 2011 20:38:25 GMT -5
Maybe I just dreamed the Connery Bond films, but the great actor never appeared bald in those films. And all of Craig's predecessors somehow fit the mould of Fleming's dashing secret agent who enjoyed being a womanizer. Now we've got this crap with Craig as Bond who looks like a muscular gay masseuse. With the current direction of the films, we're so far away from the fantasy that Fleming created (in his words) for "warm-blooded heterosexuals."
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Post by caribbeanjack on Nov 2, 2011 20:41:51 GMT -5
So just to clarify Caribbean, you are not loking forward to Bond 23? Funny. Here in America, as the film opens in early November, I'll be at the Atlantis Hotel on Paradise Island with my family. As the kids have fun with the dolphins and other attractions, I'll think about Thunderball and cherish the magic of those early films.
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Post by caribbeanjack on Nov 2, 2011 20:55:01 GMT -5
The movie will have its day in the sun for about 23 seconds--in a world of short attention spans and ushered releases around the Christmas timeframe, that translates to a lot of hoopla for the opening weekend and the few weeks leading up to it. Then it falls rapidly just like CR and QOS. Oh, the PC-driven Leftist-oriented mainstream media will gush over it, no one will dare question its quality, Sam Mendes will be proclaimed a genius for inserting some kind of political statement in a Bond movie (you can count on that one, something along the lines of Forster's and Haggis's rant on so-called American imperialism in QOS). What will carry it all is the Bond-branding, which is still powerful enough to park butts in theatre seats, so yeah, I'd say the movie will get its traction with the sheeple, especially since Eon has already strategically positioned it for a late October release in England and in the first week of Nov. in America. But once the hoopla dies down, then what? There's already some disturbing signs. Typically, in the movie business, the late October/early November release is the timeframe for junk movies that can't compete against the big high-profile films set for the weekend before Thanksgiving and, of course, the long Thanksgiving weekend itself. QOS followed this release strategy, and we all know what a true piece of excrement that turned out to be. It certainly deserved to be released in that junk-film timeframe. The public dumped it the following week to embrace stylish teenaged vampires in Twilight. So Bond 23's release strategy is already a dark cloud. Add to that an aging actor in Craig, who's long past his sell-by date in the role, but lucking out with the aforementioned Bond brand. The brand itself is like a mask he gets to hide behind. But he's coming into Bond 23 with a history of trainwrecks in Dream House and Cowboys and Aliens. These are fairly mainstream films, especially the latter, so it doesn't take great sagacity to realize that the public doesn't give a rat's behind for Craig the actor, especially outside of the Bond franchise. Eon's PR department is overdosing on antidepressant pills. You know they'll be forced to spend another multi-billion dollar marketing launch to fuel the Bond brand. But, hey, the sheeple will buy it in the short turn--for Craig is The Chosen One, all hail Craig, He cometh again, so sweep the dirt from His path. As Alvin and his generation of progressives and community organizers would say, it's all for social justice, it's all for political correctness to praise Craig, so how dare we all criticize the Sun King--He who is, after all, the reinvented Bond who reinvented acting for his generation, a wimpy anti-playboy--even gayish--Bond. Pitiful.
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Post by fredyvoorhees007 on Nov 6, 2011 1:55:09 GMT -5
I am. I just hope its better than QOS.
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Post by FormerBondFan on Nov 6, 2011 12:08:52 GMT -5
I am. I just hope its better than QOS. I hope its worse than QOS, and I think it's a waste of time hoping for greatness of Bond 23. And I'm sure our friend BJ would with me. Right, BJ?
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Post by James on Nov 7, 2011 20:53:42 GMT -5
Not even Jerry as Q would get FBF in the cinema.
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Post by FormerBondFan on Nov 7, 2011 21:24:00 GMT -5
Not even Jerry as Q would get FBF in the cinema. I prefer Jerry as Bond, just for the sake of bondnotblonde. No money is worth in seeing DC's Skyf*ckers.
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Post by garyseven on Nov 8, 2011 12:37:44 GMT -5
No. It sounds like a dull Bourne type thriller so I presume the "lighter" Bond theme was ditched?
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Post by Gambit on Nov 10, 2011 14:06:32 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to it less than ever after seeing the early pictures.
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