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Post by Cpt. Sir Dominic Flandry on Feb 6, 2008 19:50:37 GMT -5
It amuses me to hear of Daniel Craig described as a hot new star. I confess that when he was suggested as James Bond, I had to look up his resume to remind me of who he was.  |
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Post by poirot on Feb 7, 2008 16:53:39 GMT -5
Public do not think of Bond when they think action films or spy character. It is all Bourne now... Bourne has become the new gold standard for this type of film, while Bond is too heavily etched into the public's consciouness to be regarded as cutting edge or new. EON's attempts to closely imitate Bourne's approach has done absolutely nothing to transform the popular image of Bond. If QOS fails to meet expectations, it wouldn't suprise me to see Craig exit. Not that I expect either scenario- just that they wouldn't really surprise me. EON has basically painted themselves into a corner that won't allow them to switch gears as easily as before. If QOS doesn't meet expectations, where do they go with it? Do they drop the continuity approach and try to make a more traditional Bond adventure? Or do they keep trying to portray Bond as a forty-something 00 trying to find his way? Do they attempt to lighten Bond up- and how would that go over with all the newfound "Fleming purists"? I also have a feeling the studio is going to be paying close attention. They know Craig still draws a lot of criticism, while apparently being unable to draw flies at the box office in 2007. They basically cast the most unlikely candidate as Bond, and were still able to sell it to the public. If anything, the success of CR probably made them less worried about who's in the tux than ever before. |
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Post by Greg Haugen on Feb 7, 2008 17:33:11 GMT -5
Public do not think of Bond when they think action films or spy character. It is all Bourne now... Bourne has become the new gold standard for this type of film, while Bond is too heavily etched into the public's consciouness to be regarded as cutting edge or new. EON's attempts to closely imitate Bourne's approach has done absolutely nothing to transform the popular image of Bond. If QOS fails to meet expectations, it wouldn't suprise me to see Craig exit. Not that I expect either scenario- just that they wouldn't really surprise me. EON has basically painted themselves into a corner that won't allow them to switch gears as easily as before. If QOS doesn't meet expectations, where do they go with it? Do they drop the continuity approach and try to make a more traditional Bond adventure? Or do they keep trying to portray Bond as a forty-something 00 trying to find his way? Do they attempt to lighten Bond up- and how would that go over with all the newfound "Fleming purists"? I also have a feeling the studio is going to be paying close attention. They know Craig still draws a lot of criticism, while apparently being unable to draw flies at the box office in 2007. They basically cast the most unlikely candidate as Bond, and were still able to sell it to the public. If anything, the success of CR probably made them less worried about who's in the tux than ever before. I think you might be right Poirot. They can cast anyone as James Bond now and get away with it.  Barbara Broccoli's Plumber might be next. |
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Favourite James Bond Films: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible and any upcoming action films starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good because he'll need it to expand his reputation as an actor, especially in the action realm)
Favourite Films: Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, The Dark Knight Trilogy, Harry Potter, Middle-Earth, The Matrix, Mission: Impossible
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Post by FormerBondFan on Feb 8, 2008 1:18:25 GMT -5
EON's not going to get away with it, not after what they did to Pierce.
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Post by benny on Feb 9, 2008 11:43:25 GMT -5
EON's not going to get away with it, not after what they did to Pierce. Got something in the works fbf? I bet EON are already worried. ;D Oh and yeah poor, poor Pierce.  He got over the whole thing. Especially as it was 3 YEARS AGO! |
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Post by smartboy on Feb 9, 2008 12:26:44 GMT -5
Mmmmmm Benny, i often wonder who are the Craig Bond fans? , Is it because they can relate to him,are they as but ugly as he is?
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Favourite James Bond Films: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible and any upcoming action films starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good because he'll need it to expand his reputation as an actor, especially in the action realm)
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Post by FormerBondFan on Feb 9, 2008 15:19:02 GMT -5
EON's not going to get away with it, not after what they did to Pierce. Got something in the works fbf? I bet EON are already worried. ;D Oh and yeah poor, poor Pierce. He got over the whole thing. Especially as it was 3 YEARS AGO! Don't forget he's still disappointed for not having a chance to do a serious Bond. If you don't want to believe it, that's fine with me. |
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Post by Alec 006 on Feb 9, 2008 18:18:15 GMT -5
Mmmmmm Benny, i often wonder who are the Craig Bond fans? , Is it because they can relate to him,are they as but ugly as he is? Hello, Everyone who posts on this site has the right to their opinion. James Bond, and especially the movies and actors who have played Ian Fleming's secret agent, are always conjuring up differences of thoughts, ideas, preferences and opinions. With a new actor playing 007, and the new direction the series has taken with 2006's "Casino Royale"...the debates are stronger than ever. I will not take sides here. I value EVERY member's opinion on this site...whether I agree or disagree. However, this forum should always be a friendly, open, and mature debate. One of the reasons I don't visit or post on "The James Bond International Fan Club" anymore, for example, is that things at times got way too personal, people who posted stopped acting like reasonable adults, and things eventually boiled down to being very personal, immature, petty, and down right rude. The thing I love here at "Alternative 007"...is we always treat each other with respect. We stay friendly, and basically use some fresh humor, sarcasm, wit, a joke, or a "wink" if we think someone is bias...or has a very strong opinion. I am not trying to be a moderator here. That's not my job. We already have some very wonderful Moderators on "Alternative 007" who very rarely have to step in to "keep things in line." I have been a member since last July and honestly have yet to see it happen. Let's please...step back here, take a deep breath, and try to be the gentlemen we should be. I can't speak for others, but me staying on as a happy, contributing member to these forums depends on it. Take Care! |
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Post by harrypalmer on Feb 9, 2008 18:27:36 GMT -5
Mmmmmm Benny, i often wonder who are the Craig Bond fans? , Is it because they can relate to him,are they as but ugly as he is? Hello, Everyone who posts on this site has the right to their opinion. James Bond, and especially the movies and actors who have played Ian Fleming's secret agent, are always conjuring up differences of thoughts, ideas, preferences and opinions. With a new actor playing 007, and the new direction the series has taken with 2006's "Casino Royale"...the debates are stronger than ever. I will not take sides here. I value EVERY member's opinion on this site...whether I agree or disagree. However, this forum should always be a friendly, open, and mature debate. One of the reasons I don't visit or post on "The James Bond International Fan Club" anymore, for example, is that things at times got way too personal, people who posted stopped acting like reasonable adults, and things eventually boiled down to being very personal, immature, petty, and down right rude. The thing I love here at "Alternative 007"...is we always treat each other with respect. We stay friendly, and basically use some fresh humor, sarcasm, wit, a joke, or a "wink" if we think someone is bias...or has a very strong opinion. I am not trying to be a moderator here. That's not my job. We already have some very wonderful Moderators on "Alternative 007" who very rarely have to step in to "keep things in line." I have been a member since last July and honestly have yet to see it happen. Let's please...step back here, take a deep breath, and try to be the gentlemen we should be. I can't speak for others, but me staying on as a happy, contributing member to these forums depends on it. Take Care! I agree Alec! |
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Post by smartboy on Feb 10, 2008 6:12:21 GMT -5
I think that was well put Alec.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 11, 2008 7:09:39 GMT -5
We have to understand that there are Bond fans on here, that like and dislike certain aspects on the Bond franchise.
While I personally feel it is ok to express opinions, It should be acknowledged that sensitivity should be employed when discussing controversial subjects.
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Post by adam on Feb 12, 2008 15:31:28 GMT -5
The problem is the Bond franchise has already said that there is going to be three films with a continuation of storyline, Bonds revenge for Vesper etc. So even if QOS does fail, they really have to make the third instalment to tie up all the loose ends. They can't walk out on a job half done. So Craig has to be in Bond 23. Making the third with another actor will look stupid. However if QOS sucks & the public don't take to this trilogy idea, I doubt that the producers, directors and actors will have much motivation when they make Bond 23. Mind you the third Bourne film was the best.
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Post by poirot on Feb 12, 2008 18:50:22 GMT -5
It wouldn't really be that bad, since most people don't really expect continuity from Bond movies. We've also seen that EON doesn't really have a true long term plan here- as evidenced by their willingness to toss out the original Bond 22 script on a whim.
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Post by quang on Feb 13, 2008 0:34:43 GMT -5
So even if QOS does fail, they really have to make the third instalment to tie up all the loose ends. They can't walk out on a job half done. So Craig has to be in Bond 23. Making the third with another actor will look stupid. I will agree that Daneil Craig will be in next one. They sign him for 3 movies. But you know I think Eon has become unpredictable and it will not surprise me if all of sudden the original goal of trilogy is rejected. |
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Post by Walter Kovacs on Feb 14, 2008 18:21:21 GMT -5
He'll do three for sure. It's just a question of how Craig feels then and the returns of his second and third films.
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